Honda/Rover lump changeover?

george_chick · Post by **george_chick** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:12 pm

When did the 200's changeover from Honda to K series lumps?

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:16 pm

Circa '96 - pretty much when the "bubble" shape came out. So, very late N reg onwards.

That said, there are some early Mk3 216 cars with Honda lumps in them, but they were all automatic, AFAIK.

200SEI · Post by **200SEI** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:40 pm

Some 416's with auto boxes kept the honda engine too i believe...

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:21 am

Craig wrote:Circa '96 - pretty much when the "bubble" shape came out. So, very late N reg onwards.

That said, there are some early Mk3 216 cars with Honda lumps in them, but they were all automatic, AFAIK.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i never realised that some mk3s had the honda engine i thought they where all the CVT type. But

Wouldnt this mean it would be easier to fit a B16/B18 to a mk3 using these as a start?

Gonzo · Post by **Gonzo** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:18 pm

Bubble 200's NEVER had honda lumps fitted to them from factory.
Only mk2 bubble 416Autos used them(with 2 or 3 different engine types definately 3 different cam belt types but only remember seeing 2 different cam covers)
Yup 96ish is about the change point when Honda lumps stopped being used in SAXXW cars.

HTH

Al

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:23 pm

My mistake - I meant to put 416 but put 216 instead. Silly boy :stupid:

gta · Post by **gta** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:52 pm

Why did Rover switch to K especially, did they have to pay big fees for the D series design or something

200SEI · Post by **200SEI** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:07 am

When BMW took over, it was bye bye honda. BM obviously made Rovers decisions for them as the deal Rover had with Honda was a joint venture arrangement. I think it would have been very different for Rover today if BM hadn't have taken over.

Shame really....

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:43 am

[quote="200SEI"]I think it would have been very different for Rover today if BM hadn't have taken over.

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Yeah more than likely bankrupt. :wink:

It makes total financial sense to use the K series as it was Rovers own engine. No point paying for another manufacturers engine. Using someone elses engines also means less profits made from parts and servicing of engine components.

Hyper · Post by **Hyper** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:29 pm

Gary wrote:
200SEI wrote:I think it would have been very different for Rover today if BM hadn't have taken over.

quote]

Yeah more than likely bankrupt.

It makes total financial sense to use the K series as it was Rovers own engine. No point paying for another manufacturers engine. Using someone elses engines also means less profits made from parts and servicing of engine components.

As long as it was profitable, in the future, we can all look back at our defunct motor industry and console ourselves with the cheery thought that bmw once made Rover profitable

... for a select few.
Thank you bmw - for nothing !

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:52 pm

Yeah and we can all wear our rose tinted glasses and live a shelted life secure in our misconceptions.

darwin · Post by **darwin** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:33 pm

Parkers and Glass state that the changeover happened about mar 96 , along with the Mk3 dash ( I own a Honda engined Coupe registered Mar 96) . The bubble shape 200 was released Oct 95 .
If its a 1.6 and it has a Mk2 dash its a honda engine .