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whats you engine putting out (honda)

100-115bhp
4
20%
115-125bhp
4
20%
125-135bhp
3
15%
135-150bhp
3
15%
150-up (please leave spec post)
6
30%
 
Total votes: 20

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Post by weejoeturbo »

Cableguy wrote:
weejoeturbo wrote:

No , it seems you dont like doing that , you like to straighten out the wing mounting points , crash bar points , slam panel etc.. :P
i take it your refering to my 220 which i fix myself after spending £300 on the jig to pull the fornt.

because i cook my brake at a track day

my i ask what this has to do wiht this post.??
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Post by Mark »

I have a lot of Hondas - and done a few more

My D16A8 Cabriolet will soon be gone - but that made 278hp but actually blew its 3rd headgasket in the process, This is about to be stripped and used to donate loads of parts

A 248hp NASP B20 CRX currently receiveing throttle bodies
A 170hp std B16 CRX - wifes current daily driver
1.5 Dual carb CRX - being totally stripped & getting a 2.0 sleeved block gt2971r from Grant and a few other tasty toys - ram horn manifold, ally rad etc etc - 450hp lightweight Rex anyone :?:
1.6 D16A9 powered Mugen CRX about to get all the shiney internals and high power stuff from my cabriolet!



Personally I wouldnt want to do this to a k series car as the D is just so much easier.



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Post by weejoeturbo »

it ever man for them selves.

i am doing this because

1) the car is to good to scrap
2) ever kseires i look at is fcuked
3) there are no 2.l engine about (N.I)
4) i have 3 d16a9 engine a home
5) i have done this before
6) i have all the parts

7) even with the conversion and telling the insurance company it it still cheaper for me to insure the converted 214 than its is to insure my coupe or a 216gti
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Post by Cableguy »

weejoeturbo wrote:
Cableguy wrote:
weejoeturbo wrote:

No , it seems you dont like doing that , you like to straighten out the wing mounting points , crash bar points , slam panel etc.. :P
i take it your refering to my 220 which i fix myself after spending £300 on the jig to pull the fornt.

because i cook my brake at a track day

my i ask what this has to do wiht this post.??
Im just toying :)
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Post by weejoeturbo »

put up a big sorry to ever one

this project into the 214 has a lot to do with the drag racing sceen in northern ireland which i was wining at the start of last year until a civic type R apeared in the 1.6 class

it also means alot to me as i like to test my self on what i can do.

so i get a bit high strung when people start questioning my abiality to do sumthing

:sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
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Post by Craig »

What a gent. :)

I do not think anyone was questioning your abilities. Personally, I just wanted to know why you opted to convert K Series to Honda power (y0!). Your explanation makes sense. I do recall Colin (IrishRover) saying how hard it was to get D Series Rovers in that neck of the woods.
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Post by Punx0r »

I don't think anyone's doubting your ability. Just saying that starting with a K car is a lot more work to convert. However you've stated plenty of good reasons to use the K base, so fair enough IMO.

I thought CTR's where 2.0l? :?

You've got some bloody impressive cars there Mark, 250hp from a 2.0 nasp is pretty mind bending to me :o
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Post by weejoeturbo »

Craig wrote:What a gent. :)

I do not think anyone was questioning your abilities. Personally, I just wanted to know why you opted to convert K Series to Honda power (y0!). Your explanation makes sense. I do recall Colin (IrishRover) saying how hard it was to get D Series Rovers in that neck of the woods.
honda are plently full but insurance is hell

gtis are few and far between any that do come up fro sale should have been in the scrapyard in the sky long long ago.

the conversion suits because quinn direct will cover me if i use the car a show car which i am hoping it will be by the summer. but not ristrict my mileage.

+ if i keep it as a 214 on the book but declare it as a 1.6 (not turbo)

the guys in the south of ireland will jump on it when it come up for sale because they can insure it down there as a 1.4
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Post by weejoeturbo »

Punx0r wrote:I don't think anyone's doubting your ability. Just saying that starting with a K car is a lot more work to convert. However you've stated plenty of good reasons to use the K base, so fair enough IMO.

I thought CTR's where 2.0l? :?

You've got some bloody impressive cars there Mark, 250hp from a 2.0 nasp is pretty mind bending to me :o
import ek ctr are 1.6 but i think some have the 1.8 in them

ep3 are 2.0l
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Post by Mark »

Punx0r wrote: I thought CTR's where 2.0l? :?

You've got some bloody impressive cars there Mark, 250hp from a 2.0 nasp is pretty mind bending to me :o

EP3 CTR is a 2.0 Honda K series iVtec
EK9 CTR is a 1.6 Honda B series (in fact its a destroked Integra type R engine with slightly better cams)


As for the B20 - Its far from Stock - http://www.rovertech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37111

Just waiting to see what difference the throttle bodies will make

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Post by sam w »

Well im going to be blunt and say I don't believe a word of it :?

Have you got a pic of the slip proving the car has managed a 6.4 sec 0-60?
Got any proof that you have undertaken this kind of conversion before and did it actually work?

Insurance is pretty much the same regardless whether the car is rover or honda powered. What will make your insurance sky high is replaing the standard unit with another and turbocharging it. Oh wait,
+ if i keep it as a 214 on the book but declare it as a 1.6 (not turbo)
Oh it appears you have found a (illegal?) way around that!
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Post by Mynheers_a_pint »

Sam,
I think your thinknig what everoyone is but we have decided to allow the guy to prove himsaelf first rather than to call his(potencial)bluf.

So despite the video he's posted proving the contrary to his claims, lets let him build the car before we make a judgment.

Even if its laughable. :roll:
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Post by sam w »

Mynheers_a_pint wrote:Sam,
I think your thinknig what everoyone is but we have decided to allow the guy to prove himsaelf first rather than to call his(potencial)bluf.

So despite the video he's posted proving the contrary to his claims, lets let him build the car before we make a judgment.

Even if its laughable. :roll:
Thought I wasn't the only one thinking it. Not trying to start an argument but when someone makes rather bold claims, I like to see proper proof rather than annoying nova maths and rubbish videos.

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Post by Mynheers_a_pint »

no it wasnt a rubbish video proving a 6.5 0-60 it was a video proving otherwise. You and i have had the argument before :wink: .

As i said lets let him build the car and go from there. It is, afterall, comendable he is trying. :)
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Post by sam w »

Ok well if the conversion becomes more than a fantasy, id love to see some progress pics.
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ok but i will be suprized if he even posts on here again

shame coz for all we know he could have been best custom builder yet coming out the woodwork

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Post by Stevo135+ »

Good luck with your D16A8/9 conversion. i can see why your doing this to an ex K-series powered car given your situation, even though it's more work than it needs to be, and the D16 engined car's are the easiest to do a swap on. I reckon that a D16 DOHC turbo car would be rapid, but still not as fast as the average T16T powered car. If MGR tested a std version at 6.2sec 0-60, then given perfect conditions and good tyres, then this could be replicated, so i can't see any reason to argue about how fast a T16T powered car will go?

Id personally want to try a K-series turbo conversion if i had a K-series powered R200, but then i reckon you can get 1.8K engine's quite cheap, so id probably buy a spare to re-build with forged pistons and rods, for when the turbo kitted std 1.8K blows up!
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Post by Grawolf »

hes getting into the same situation as me im not saying its cheap but you can get 400whp from a crx for about £2000 thanks to masses of stock in the us that no one is buying anymore

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CIVIC-CRX-D ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vitara-T ... 1448QQrdZ1

from a quick surch better deals can be found of ebay
£ for £ all honda engines are better than t-series when people catch on you will start seeing t series to d series conversions i would love to see a rover coupe H22 as even though i sold up the coupe is still a beautiful car its just the t series costs to much to get power from :(

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Post by Mynheers_a_pint »

dude, the H22 is too heavy. A B20/b16 hybrid would be cool in a rover, or a K20 if you fancy rinsing your wallet on a car worth less than the engine...

I'm sure most of the above has been covered in another post, but hey lets all jump on the band wagon and pretend we know sh*t loads about hondas.

Ho hum..... :roll:
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Post by IrishRover »

Only just saw this thread now.
WeejoeTurbo is up in North Northern Ireland. I'm in South Southern (Republic) of Ireland. Don't know much about what's up in NI, but I'd be pretty sure there's a lot more Rovers up there than down here anyway.

Not wishing to take the thread any more off topic, but for the record, the coupe turbo 0 to 60 book figure has been quoted variously as 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4 but 6.2 is the most common figure that seems to be quoted.

Any update on the 1.4K to D16A9 conversion anyway?

Oh and BTW, the Honda engined ones always seem to launch much better than the Rover engined ones. Seems to me to be the more snappy and accurate feeling clutch and crisper throttle pedals.
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Post by weejoeturbo »

do out a video for street fire with all the current upto date picture should have part 1 up soon

my new pistons and rods should be here this week
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