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205 GTi 1.9......
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:45 pm
by 200SEI
I'm sure one of these little buggers should be quicker than my car...
Anyway, a rather tidy 1.9 GTi came up against me, as we both left the island (private track) i was just infront

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Came off the island, bout 5500 rpm (pulls hardest at this point) in second, roared down the straight, i was actually pulling away slightly, into third (SOHC box gives a slight flat spot from second to third), i wasn't pulling away anymore, he gained slightly but once the trusty 'D was past 5500 again the gap opened up, the brakes were fading as i slowed down at the next bend!!!(not too good these standard brakes)
I let him past after that, very amusing i thought, i wouldn't have expected this with the weight, power and torque of a 205 GTi !?
He was certainly trying and the car was no knacker, perhaps he just wasn't a great driver

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:49 pm
by 214_si
sure i was a 1.9 gti? as my mates gti pissus over most things specially my DOHC and corners like a go cart too!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:01 am
by 200SEI
Unless he was a loser with 1.9 badges and wheels....even a 1.6 should have been neck and neck i would have thought.
My cars no slouch, but im not so sure its quicker than a 1.9.
Then again, they are old cars now and my engine is like brand new!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:05 am
by 214_si
just dee yours was a DOHC and not a SOHC!
my mates one has had a freshen recently and is bloody rapid
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:15 am
by Craig
The (standard) figures for a 205 GTi are as follows:
Power - 130bhp
0-60 - 7.8 seconds
Max speed - 135mph
Compare this to a D16 DOHC powered 216:
Power - 130bhp
0-60 - circa 8 seconds (from memory)
Max speed - ??
The Pug has a reputation for good handling, but this was a fairly straight run. There'd be very little in it if the Pug was standard (ish).
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:25 am
by Scott
my old 216 gti twin cam being ragged up the german autobahn!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:27 am
by Craig
Excellent!
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:40 am
by listie
It is difficult these days to spot proper 1.6 and 1.9 GTI's, on a straight run as Craig said not a lot in it, it would be the twisties where it would show it's true colours.
I do miss mine
Si
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:33 pm
by Jonny 5
I pissed on my mates aswell in my DOHC, particularly on the dual carriageway.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:03 pm
by radddogg
When I had the 216 gti dohc, I gave a Clio Williams a good run. Not the same car but still quick french crap anyway.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:43 pm
by listie
radddogg wrote:When I had the 216 gti dohc, I gave a Clio Williams a good run. Not the same car but still quick french crap anyway.
Thats bl00dy good going against a Clio Williams, I rate those very highly
Si
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:17 pm
by radddogg
listie wrote:radddogg wrote:When I had the 216 gti dohc, I gave a Clio Williams a good run. Not the same car but still quick french crap anyway.
Thats bl00dy good going against a Clio Williams, I rate those very highly
Si
Yeah, I was well impressed as the GTi was quite new to me at the time. I'm not gonna exagerate and say I panned him but he couldn't shake me off.
Re: 205 GTi 1.9......
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:33 pm
by gta
200SEI wrote: the brakes were fading as i slowed down at the next bend!!!(not too good these standard brakes)
You can get pagid brake pads cheaply on ebay which should help alot
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:04 pm
by Sheaf
Jonny 5 wrote:I pissed on my mates aswell in my DOHC, particularly on the dual carriageway.
You pissed on your mates when you were driving? And they're still your mates?

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:54 pm
by grant.archer
cool, sounds good. D16 DOHC is deffinately a strong competitor against a fair few of the older cars with bigger engines, pug and ford etc. They certainly make decent enough power for their size

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:16 pm
by Leo
Sheaf wrote:Jonny 5 wrote:I pissed on my mates aswell in my DOHC, particularly on the dual carriageway.
You pissed on your mates when you were driving? And they're still your mates?

Brutal!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:31 pm
by 200SEI
gta wrote:You can get pagid brake pads cheaply on ebay which should help alot
Ive got EBC GreenStuff at the mo, i would have thought they were as good?
Its not just the power output thats good from the DOHC, its the power delivery thoughout the range. I think this is due to the flat(ish) torque curve.
Has anyone got a power/torque curve for a D16 DOHC (near standard) i could see.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:53 pm
by listie
200SEI wrote:Ive got EBC GreenStuff at the mo, i would have thought they were as good?
My expirence of Green stuff has varied, sometimes great, sometimes (mostly) a bit poo.
The Pagid's I have now are awsome
Si