Finding out what alarms fitted

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:08 pm

Just been on the phone for about an hour with my insurance company, because my docs came thru today.
They want to know what type of alarm I have fitted to the Ticky.
I asked them why, and was told that they need to know the spec

"Its a Rover alarm", what else do they need to know
Is there a way of finding out without going to a garage to confirm
(i.e. website, or even from the ecu serial numbers e.t.c,)

Squaddiemodo · Post by **Squaddiemodo** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:10 pm

Standard fit Rover alarm system

thats all i ever say they always seem happy with that

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:11 pm

Squaddiemodo wrote:Standard fit Rover alarm system

thats all i ever say they always seem happy with that

Thats what I said, but they need to know, never had this problem with the 600

a royal P I T A

Squaddiemodo · Post by **Squaddiemodo** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:14 pm

Say you dont know and there is no way of checking as Rover have gone bust! sounds like some computer monkey just being a jobsworth to me

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:17 pm

Yep said that too,
they want me to go to a garage now, I mean WTF is this all about

Squaddiemodo · Post by **Squaddiemodo** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:40 pm

They probably think the car is something it isnt, especially if you told them it was a Tickford.

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:46 pm

Squaddiemodo wrote:They probably think the car is something it isnt, especially if you told them it was a Tickford.

Nope Just told them its an 820 16V Turbo

Post by **Punx0r** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:04 pm

There's nothing in the Mk1 workshop manuals that I can see.

They're being twats. If you took it to a garage they wouldn't know either. The only people that really know what it is are the company who made it (probably lucas) and whoever speced it from rover 20+ years ago.

Even if you do find out the make and model number they'll then realise it isn't listed on their drop-down menu

I'd ask to speak to someone who knows WTF they're talking about, or take your business elsewhere...

Sheaf · Post by **Sheaf** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:09 pm

Tell them it's a 'Tickford Alarm'

You wont be lying, and if they've got a name to call it maybe they'll stop being f**ktards.

doughts · Post by **doughts** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:09 pm

Tell them you can't take it to the garage as it's not insured.

andrew173 · Post by **andrew173** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:39 pm

Tell them you can't take it to the garage as it's not insured

Genius

al_roverMG · Post by **al_roverMG** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:23 pm

Name and shame the insurance company. It sounds to me like they are trying to screw more money out of you claiming the alarm ist recognised. I dont think the tickyalarms are cat 1 recognised are they but if they are then any decent alarm fitter would be able to do you a Thatcham caertificate to send off to them for a small fee.

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:34 pm

phone back ask to speak to supervisor somewhere in conversation after mentioning all above
Rover bust
no info on alarm over 10yo
cant take anywhere without insurance

Then mention trading standards and your money back will sort the problem (FAST)

ishturbs · Post by **ishturbs** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:34 pm

Tell them to deal with the case with the info you have provided or else im going to take my binus else were.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:59 pm

theyre taking the mick!

it has a 'burglar alarm' i think its called lol.

the fob is infra red / non rolling, you can learn the code with the casio remote watch, and disarm the 'immobilliser' and open the central locking. the fob/receiver are matched pairs, i do not think there receiver and CCU are coded together. However, the signal from the receiver to CCU is not just an 'on', its a code (bot not vehicle specific).

the immobiliser prevents it from cranking, and also sounds the alarm should you try and activate the ignition.

the only way to disarm is unlock by fob, or unlock by the key, but the key switches are prone to fail on old doors, the way to tell if its succesfully unlocked and signalled alarm ecu propperly is to check the interior light flashes.

lights will go on when succesfully unlocked. do not open the car until the lights have flashed if you are using the key.

light wil flash twice in succesion to confirm that the car is locked and the alarm ecu has been signalled by the door switch to arm the car.

boot has a switch aswell so you dont have to turn the alarm off to open the boot.

anyways, just tell them its a standard rover alarm. Im not sure of the Cat 1 sepcification or if it meets it.

Post by **Punx0r** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:02 pm

I don't think any of the rover alarms in the last 7 years have met any of the CAT classifications. I think the new MG's had a CAT 2 as standard?

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:13 pm

Sounds like you got a numpty that doesn't know what they're talking about! If I get one of those I hang up and ring back hoping to get someone who may know what they're doing!

dreaddan · Post by **dreaddan** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:23 pm

it's cuz you've told them it's a turbo

Call them up and tell them it's a standard Rover Alarm & Imobiler thats not thacham approved.

If they insist on an inspection, tell them you expect them to pay for the inpection and Loss of earnings.
If they refuse go somewehere else.

ps. who is your insuring with ?

420gazza · Post by **420gazza** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:47 pm

just tell them its a cat1 alarm n immobiliser should knock a few quid off even without a certificate.

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:18 pm

420gazza wrote:just tell them its a cat1 alarm n immobiliser should knock a few quid off even without a certificate.

They want written proof or a Cert.

I'm insured with Direct line, have been for 15 years, with no claims in that time.

Willl take on board all advice given, and give them stick

calibrax · Post by **calibrax** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:29 pm

Certificates are available on eBay

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:55 pm

Just called them back again, she needs to have a cat 1 or 2 Thatcham approved immobiliser fitted

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:37 pm

lol, i got a similar thing with my metro GTi when i tried to insure it (with direct line)

even if i didnt want to insure it for theft, (third party only), they still said i had to have one (immobiliser), i have no idea why?

600_Nutta · Post by **600_Nutta** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:41 pm

Finally got it sorted with another ins company

Plus saved myself Â£50 - Bonus
They're happy with the standard immob fitted too

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:58 pm

See it pays to shop around

Soon as they start giving me hurdles to cross I say no don't bother I'll go elsewhere thank you! Most soon change the attitude, and then have a cob when you say thanks, I have a few others to ring before making a decision!