honda powered rovers power poll

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:44 am

was try to get a feel for the sort of power a honda turbo engine in the rovers are putting out/

just to get a feel for what my 214 should be like when its done.
(16v-16i turbo conversion)
so just running a little poll to get an idea of figures

if you leave a poll select can you leave a post with some spec aswell please.

the poll can be for turbo, non-turbo, vtec, and non-vtec. but if you are non-turbo/vtec please leave a post with spec.

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:47 am

i will get things going

my coupe has d16a9 dohc engine a megan racing cat and back box

currently 138bhp at the flywheel.

0-60mph around 6.5sec currently.

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:56 am

cant it be honda powerd hondas to after all my civic coupe is almost identical under the skin to a rover coupe

Grawolf

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:59 am

Grawolf wrote:cant it be honda powerd hondas to after all my civic coupe is almost identical under the skin to a rover coupe

Grawolf

why not firer away.

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:19 am

Civic coupe with b16a2 conversion 160Bhp
have got skunk2 valve springs and retainers to go in waiting for stage2 turbo cams before i re-build head
best part of any b-series look at price of parts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Ac ... enameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-Series ... 5517QQrdZ1

remember $2=Â£1

Grawolf

lav · Post by **lav** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:36 am

voted on behalf of the spec in my sig, would have been pretty much 200bhp @6psi if I had the time to tune it before selling up

lav · Post by **lav** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:37 am

weejoeturbo wrote:my coupe has d16a9 dohc engine a megan racing cat and back box

currently 138bhp at the flywheel.

0-60mph around 6.5sec currently.

:!:

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:39 am

he did say around 2-3sec aint a big diff

Post by **Cableguy** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:50 am

I dont get it , 220 Turbo figure is 6.5 seconds to 60 = 200 bhp , and your getting it with a 216 ?

I know they weigh less , but its the same as me driving the 1.6 and benno_bro driving the 220 turbo.

Sheaf · Post by **Sheaf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:48 pm

LOL

6.5s to 60 in a pretty much std 216.. even in DOHC form is dreaming.

Jonny's B16 216 in nasp form was what, 180bhp? That quarter miled in 14.9 IIRC, the same as a std 220T and I'd imagine sprinted to 60 in similar time. Now that's a fair comparison... but a D16 that's 40bhp down? I seriously doubt it, unless it weighs 900kg.

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:00 pm

The stopwatch is a wonderful thing,

Setting off now *wheelspins*
Start the clock, the speedo's moving!
I'm at 58 - stop the clock!

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:23 pm

No spec needed, really. The 827 V6 lump is supposed to make 169bhp as standard, though I would not be surprised to find out it is actually slightly higher.

JamesCoupe · Post by **JamesCoupe** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:34 pm

RR'd at 130bhp, de-cat, mongoose cat-back and pipercross panel filter.

D16A6

Ruairi214 · Post by **Ruairi214** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:50 pm

weejoeturbo wrote:i will get things going

my coupe has d16a9 dohc engine a megan racing cat and back box

currently 138bhp at the flywheel.

0-60mph around 6.5sec currently.

You're all laughing but when I had the exact same car he's talking about it was 125bhp standard and i got 7sec 0-60, the car can do it.

Si · Post by Si » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:50 am

Ruairi214 wrote:
weejoeturbo wrote:i will get things going

my coupe has d16a9 dohc engine a megan racing cat and back box

currently 138bhp at the flywheel.

0-60mph around 6.5sec currently.
You're all laughing but when I had the exact same car he's talking about it was 125bhp standard and i got 7sec 0-60, the car can do it.

Where was that timed?

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:42 am

Rover turbo
kerb weight 1185
bhp 200
0-60 6.4

Civic vti
kerb weight 1070
bhp 160
0-60 7.2

Rover 216 gti
kerb weight 1100
bhp 127
0-60 8.7

i would love to see a standard coupe turbo do 60 in 6.4
my best though only done onece was 7.8 bit to much spin
but to say you can get to 60 in 7sec on standard spec is insulting sorry

Grawolf

Mynheers_a_pint · Post by **Mynheers_a_pint** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:30 am

this pointless argument is so tired and old. I honestly don't know why it comes up.

"my standard honda engine is faster than a 220 turbo because __________." Fill in the gap and its the same every single time. Spend considerable money on it you might get one that is quicker, but in standard guise, even with a fair few mods it's a pointless argument.

EDIT; your putting a honda engine in a K series car????????????????

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:28 am

Mynheers_a_pint wrote:this pointless argument is so tired and old. I honestly don't know why it comes up.

"my standard honda engine is faster than a 220 turbo because __________." Fill in the gap and its the same every single time. Spend considerable money on it you might get one that is quicker, but in standard guise, even with a fair few mods it's a pointless argument.

EDIT; your putting a honda engine in a K series car????????????????

Fuk ye didnt even think of that till you said it mmmm i think you may want a honda engine car to start with mate your looking at a (massive) job

Grawolf

Mark16v · Post by **Mark16v** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:12 am

216 Coupe D16A8 with CAI+K&N, decat and rear silencer (only for the noise

)

115BHP and 136Nm on the wheels, 133BHP and 158Nm at the flywheel

Post by **agw_01** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:25 am

Grawolf wrote:i would love to see a standard coupe turbo do 60 in 6.4
my best though only done onece was 7.8 bit to much spin
but to say you can get to 60 in 7sec on standard spec is insulting sorry

Grawolf

Errr lol?

Even I can get an 8.5 to 60 run in my 220 GSi.

Not wanting to whore the thread or anything, I'm going to leave

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:29 am

Ruairi214 wrote:
weejoeturbo wrote:i will get things going

my coupe has d16a9 dohc engine a megan racing cat and back box

currently 138bhp at the flywheel.

0-60mph around 6.5sec currently.
You're all laughing but when I had the exact same car he's talking about it was 125bhp standard and i got 7sec 0-60, the car can do it.

the car has been re dyno'd from i got her back from rauiri, i fix'd the fueling problem aswell so my figures are ok.

any body who dosn't beleive my 0-60 watch this vid.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/rov ... 3d6ef0.htm

now i make that 6.5sec

my offical 0-60 was 6.4 measured with gps over a 1/4mile

16.3 1/4 @ 98mph

Mynheers_a_pint · Post by **Mynheers_a_pint** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:53 am

ooooooh dear. Its 0-50 in 6.5......

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:56 am

agw_01 wrote:
Grawolf wrote:i would love to see a standard coupe turbo do 60 in 6.4
my best though only done onece was 7.8 bit to much spin
but to say you can get to 60 in 7sec on standard spec is insulting sorry

Grawolf
Errr lol?

Even I can get an 8.5 to 60 run in my 220 GSi.

Not wanting to whore the thread or anything, I'm going to leave

hi what is your point you can drive your car faster that you have had for god knows how long, faster than i can drive one that i am in the middle of buying
i said to him its going to be ages before i see what all this vtec fuss is about as i cant drive it till i transfer engine to my car, so he says jump in and took it to trading estate (on a Sunday whole place shut down)
let me have a play with his plug in cigar socket speed recorder thingy
and like i said did not know car, gave way to much power and span off to get 7.8 sec 0-60

then took it back and put on trailer with big grin on face

fastest car I have ever had is a 420 turbo which you donâ€™t really feel turbo kick in its just power from start to finish but vtec must be like fitting a bigger turbo you really do feel it come in about 5500-6000rpm LOVED IT

Maxine (My 420 sad I know) would destroy it though still my favorite of all

Grawolf

Post by **agw_01** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:21 pm

WTF are you talking about?

You start spouting rubbish about the Coupe Turbo's not being able to do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and yet you've only driven one once... which resulted in you losing traction and spinning up?

Helloo..... it's December... the roads are crap. There's no way you'll get the power down in this weather. Why not try again in Summer when the roads are nice and warm? I'll put money on it that you'd be able to do it in 6.5 seconds.

Grawolf · Post by **Grawolf** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:35 pm

not the coupe turbo a honda vtec

i had a 420 turbo for a long time my sister in law actually pi$$ed hes self in that car i bet its dam close but still think 6.4 is a little optimistic
and you took comment wrong way i mean i really would like to see coupe turbo do 0-60 in that time

Grawolf

Post by **agw_01** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:51 pm

Ahhh, because you mentioned the Rover Turbo doing 6.4 to 60 I thought that was what you were talking about.

And, yeah I did think that perhaps that was what you meant, so I apologise for coming across so harsh

Mynheers_a_pint · Post by **Mynheers_a_pint** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:26 pm

sorry i have to give this a bump because i really am inrterested in how your going about converting a K series rover, to a D series. Even if you cant count to 60

Post by **SubCat001** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:49 pm

Converting a K to Honda seems an arse about face way of doing it.

A couple of other points too:

A standard healthy 200/400 turbo will run mid to high 6s to 60mph, not that it really matters as its int he 30-70mph stakes that they really excel.

On the vid the car in question leaves the line at approx 6.5secs and hits an indicated 60mph at 14secs. Now if my math serves me right, that is only 7.5secs to an indicated 60mph.

chazjenkins · Post by **chazjenkins** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:54 pm

I think the mathematics in question is the newfound and also copywritten (By Max Power) Novamaths.

keironewoodgate · Post by **keironewoodgate** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:03 pm

SubCat001 wrote:

A standard healthy 200/400 turbo will run mid to high 6s to 60mph

Really!? I ran a 5.9 on pretty much a standard car at silverstone (gbe and hot air filter) i think a healthy car could hit standard times. But your right it doesnt really matter, 30-70 is where its at.

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:30 pm

k-series to honda is easy have don it before.

i have the wiring, frame etc out of an old 216 gsi i have knocking about.

grinder will sort out the other to mounts
aday will fit the wiring loom (have it done all ready.) and tested.

engine should be in at the end of jan, waiting for parts.

iam going to be blunt here it seems if you guys cant just screw a part off and relpace with a new one its impossible to do....(not all of you but most)

i have alot of experinace with engine waps into car that shoudnt have these engines.

eg i have build 2 off road buggys, a stock rod and a autograss car.

anyway the post is not about 2.l turbo its about honda power.

i could have fitted the t16-t to the car but i want a reliable engine that why am using honda and i can get just as much power out of it..

+ every fanney and there aunt does t16-turbo conversion.

for those who question my 0-60 as i have said before the car has been tested with a gps 0-60 metre thing at a drag day a bishopscourt racetrack in Northern ireland at 6.4sec + my 220gsi with a bit off extra boost does it in 6sec but that while shreding the tires

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:37 pm

weejoeturbo wrote: iam going to be blunt here it seems if you guys cant just screw a part off and relpace with a new one its impossible to do....(not all of you but most)

That's not being blunt, though it probably rhymes ...

The point anyone with knowledge of the marque would probably make is that it makes little sense to convert a K Series to Honda power when you could simply have started with a D Series in the first place!

calibrax · Post by **calibrax** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:46 pm

0-60 in 6.5... 0-60 in 7.8....

All meaningless in the real world... it's 30-70 through the gears where it really counts.

Post by **Cableguy** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:49 pm

weejoeturbo wrote:
iam going to be blunt here it seems if you guys cant just screw a part off and relpace with a new one its impossible to do....(not all of you but most)

No , it seems you dont like doing that , you like to straighten out the wing mounting points , crash bar points , slam panel etc..

weejoeturbo · Post by **weejoeturbo** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:52 pm

Craig wrote:
weejoeturbo wrote: iam going to be blunt here it seems if you guys cant just screw a part off and relpace with a new one its impossible to do....(not all of you but most)
That's not being blunt, though it probably rhymes ...

The point anyone with knowledge of the marque would probably make is that it makes little sense to convert a K Series to Honda power when you could simply have started with a D Series in the first place!

the body on the 214 mint so is the interior.

thats why.

if i what a gti i would have to go to england but i wouldnt get one for the same price as i got the 214 or i wouldnt get one with the same interior condition/colour or with the same body condition 94 no rust AT ALL

oh yes and the body only has 50k on it. the engine i have has 20k on it.

my be coming ascross as a teacup but that becasue i heat it when people second guess things i say.

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