can some one tell me what turbo engine this is

[jambon13]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/unused-rover-t-se ... otohosting

i just bought.looks like a bargin

[Martyn-620Ti]

looks like a standard nasp engine to me.

[jambon13]

so not a turbo?

[MarkCoupe]

so not a turbo?

Well, it isn't advertised as a turbo, it has no turbocharger unit on the side, it has a nasp manifold.

Its an 820i T16 Nasp engine with A/C .

So what made you think it was a turbo?

And unfortunately, its most certainly not a bargain, i couldnt sell my 54,000 mile mint nasp engine for £30 over a period of a year. I imagine thats the most anyones paid for one in many many moons.

[IrishRover]

And unfortunately, its most certainly not a bargain, i couldnt sell my 54,000 mile mint nasp engine for £30 over a period of a year. I imagine thats the most anyones paid for one in many many moons.

Amazing to hear that - surely someone who needs a replacement engine for their car would be only to happy to pay several hundred for it were their need great enough. 350 for an unused complete engine with gearbox sounds quite reasonable to me

[MarkCoupe]

And unfortunately, its most certainly not a bargain, i couldnt sell my 54,000 mile mint nasp engine for £30 over a period of a year. I imagine thats the most anyones paid for one in many many moons.

Amazing to hear that - surely someone who needs a replacement engine for their car would be only to happy to pay several hundred for it were their need great enough. 350 for an unused complete engine with gearbox sounds quite reasonable to me

It sounds very good in theory, but theory doesnt sell. I tried everywhere, started on RT for £100, after a few months of all forums and two ebay stints i tried 60. Then just dropped it and dropped it. Eventualy sold the ehad for £50 (as its a turbo compatible part) and scrapped the block for £15.

[IrishRover]

When I needed a new engine for my coupe, shortly after I had bought the car, I was desperately seeking an engine, and could not find one for sale anywhere. I was quite prepared to buy one new from Rover, but they did not seem to be able to sell me one - it was on "backorder" or something unhelpful like that. They wanted me to pay them 5,000 Sterlings up front and then they would go and see if they might be able to supply me with an engine. If a seller of an engine who only wanted a few hundred Sterlings for it had materialised at that time, I would have praised God, Jehovah, Allah, Xenu - or whoever he was into - for my good fortune.

[MarkCoupe]

Turbo? Turbo engines have been £600 new for about 3 yrs.

But turbos are different, obviously alot more desirable.

[IrishRover]

What I'm saying is that a person with enough need will be willing to pay the money. I think the kind of people who are out there with the money, don't know who to turn to when things go bad for them and simply leave their cars into a mechanic or take the advice of "a mechanically minded friend". If only people with the right parts to sell and the people with the desperate need for these parts could be brought together at the right time, but I don't think this happens. When they need their car back on the road as soon as possible because they need to get to work next week without having to look for alternative transport, their first port of call is not a Rover forum, or even ebay.

[MarkCoupe]

OK Col, before we go off a tangent , in answer to the OP

Its obviously not a turbo engine
Its not a bargain (although it would be if it was a turbo)
I found it hard to sell a low milage nasp for £30

Period.

[Jonny 5]

Who blows NA T16's up anyway?

[IrishRover]

Your ma?

[jambon13]

right i got a 220 turbo in my zr.i want to know if this is any good to me

[Scott]

Who blows NA T16's up anyway?

i tried with my 420, i think its actually impossible! Gearbox was getting close though heh..

Jambon, The engine isnt what your after, it doesnt have turbo pistons.

[jambon13]

want to put forges in it anyway.can it be done that way

[Cableguy]

Good money , after bad money , after good money.

You could have got a block for free on here and put forgies in that mate

[big_g]

tbh i would of paid that price for an engine ad gearbox with 0 miles on it!

it would be perfect for converting to a turbo and fitting m series pistons and rods to

[Scott]

You will need to move over several items from your existing engine (cam sprockets firstly).

You will need to drift the exhaust cam to except a distributor drive.

You will need to drill and tap the oil feed and return for the oil cooler. Also need to drill and tap the oil feed for the turbo.

And countless other little mods (sump might not fit? bigger bolts springs to mind).

[Cableguy]

tbh i would of paid that price for an engine ad gearbox with 0 miles on it!

it would be perfect for converting to a turbo and fitting m series pistons and rods to

Just as perfect as any other free block tbh mate, your removing majority of the 0 miles parts lol.

[Drew]

depends on what your doing with the car mate. if your looking for more power from a re-build then this probably isnt the best.

i would be tempted to get a de-comp plate to lower the compression and fit your turbo bits to the new engine.

Drew

[Punx0r]

I was thinking the same: boost it! There's precedent (Marko). Then again, if you're experimenting then a near-free used engine would probably be a better idea. You could use the mint block for M-series piston, but you'd have to sell all the anciliaries/gearbox to make it worthwhile.

I suppose what you really need is someone with a nasp car they really love (probably a woman) and who's just properly roasted the engine following a split hose etc.

[Phil1184]

Never mind what engine it is, that blokes got a TVR, a Merc and a Porsche in his garage!!!

[*ASHY*]

Surely if he's decided to use forgies it's no big deal to turbo the thing? For a start he'll save on a rebore, skim, regrind, shells, new valve guides e.t.c. that may be required on an old T series turbo rebuild. Yes there are litte things that may need doing such as turbo oil feed/returns,sprockets e.t.c. but what's the big deal on that? He'll need the turbo and manifold obviously and there's plenty of T25's about. Not expensive either to sort some wiring and an ECU.
Not sure how the gearbox will cope, but at least it's a brand spanker instead of some wasted turbo box on it's last legs.

I think a 0 miler is a good starting point be it turbo or not.

[t16omcat]

its a 420 bubble nasp lump, the block will be already drilled/tapped & plugged for the turbo feed.

i would bolt a t25 on & run 6-7psi or swap the pistons for some good used items or get some forgies as standard size.

k6 'box has nice ratios so you could chuck in a torsen to make a pretty good item.

£350 sounds like a lot of money but if you break it down into the component parts its a fairly good price.
most parts are identical to the turbo items anyway.

[Stevo135+]

Has anyone ever tried to run a nasp 10:1 T16, at anything like the std 11.5psi of boost used in the 8.5:1 turbo lump? Could it be feasible with very efficiant intercooling/charge cooling, a retarded ignition curve, and using 100RON fuel? I'm not talking about it being practical, id just like to know if anyone has ever successfully run a T-series turbo, with 10:1 OEM or other non forged pistons even for a couple of thousand miles?

[Punx0r]

Marko, 1 bar, normal unleaded + octance booster, long time without damage

[xr4x4]

Marko, 1 bar, normal unleaded + octance booster, long time without damage

i thought it went pop...

[Punx0r]

I *think* he took the turbo off when his younger brother took ownership of the landy?

Not much detail, but a little:

http://www.rovertech.net/forum/viewtopi ... &sk=t&sd=a

(Page 4, halfway down)

[Dom]

Who blows NA T16's up anyway?

Greenman

Dom

[peteT16]

Greenman, there's a name from the past, iirc he spent a lot of money detonating a n/a T16.

[Dom]

Yup.
Cams & verniers, big-valve head, aftermarket management - ran high 160's IIRC for a short while then died.

He never bother to investigate as was depressed about the outcome... Shame.


Dom

[C2K]

Yup.
Cams & verniers, big-valve head, aftermarket management - ran high 160's IIRC for a short while then died.

He never bother to investigate as was depressed about the outcome... Shame.


Dom

It made 181 at it's prime, then died. Si Gurney ended up with the heavily worked head iirc, now on Ryan's car?

[Dom]

There ya go then.

Think Greenman was unsure about this figure however IIRC, and never got a chance to verify it... Would have been great to see how far he could have taken it - but I guess it was just economically unviable, and Scoobies provide a lot more bang-per-buck ('scuse the pun )

Dom

[Martyn-620Ti]

I also turbo'd a nasp over a year ago, Only went pop on the rollers after i put 14psi through,then a new piston was fitted the following day. Ran a dream on 6-8 psi.

[Dom]

That sounds REALLY interesting...

What BHP did it make on 8psi..?
Who has it now..?


Dom