engine temp gauge

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:22 pm

ok so i got a new expansion tank fitted it let the car run for a while to get the coolant through itall is well.. until i drove it the temp gauge is going as high as 3/4

what could be causing this.. i have a vitty sport running 12.5 psi kand n cone filter (maybe the problem) and a dump valve

any suggestions dudes

Post by **Cableguy** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:24 pm

How would the coke filter affect engine temps ?

Did you bleed it correctly ?

Squaddiemodo · Post by **Squaddiemodo** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:26 pm

Sounds like an airlock to me

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:31 pm

I never understand how people get airlocks ???
I've been working on cars since I was 15 (43 Now) and never airlocked a cooling system.
I've had to remove airlocks from loads of engine, due to people puttin g the caps back on the header tank/rad.

It's easy.
1. Fill it up with correct mix of coolant and water.
2. Run engine with cap OFF till the termostat opens and fans kick in, may take a while when its cold outside.

Post by **Cableguy** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:39 pm

fluke wrote:I never understand how people get airlocks ???
I've been working on cars since I was 15 (43 Now) and never airlocked a cooling system.
I've had to remove airlocks from loads of engine, due to people puttin g the caps back on the header tank/rad.

It's easy.
1. Fill it up with correct mix of coolant and water.
2. Run engine with cap OFF till the termostat opens and fans kick in, may take a while when its cold outside.

Never had a K series then ?

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:40 pm

Cableguy wrote:
fluke wrote:I never understand how people get airlocks ???
I've been working on cars since I was 15 (43 Now) and never airlocked a cooling system.
I've had to remove airlocks from loads of engine, due to people puttin g the caps back on the header tank/rad.

It's easy.
1. Fill it up with correct mix of coolant and water.
2. Run engine with cap OFF till the termostat opens and fans kick in, may take a while when its cold outside.

Never had a K series then ?

Had No.
Worked on Yes.

walshy.walsh · Post by **walshy.walsh** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:42 pm

think "fluke" may know his stuff a touch better than you "cableguy"

TurboMG · Post by **TurboMG** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:44 pm

Make sure the heater is on hot, otherwise coolant wont flow around the system properly...

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:46 pm

TurboMG wrote:Make sure the heater is on hot, otherwise coolant wont flow around the system properly...

Cheers Ian.
I must stop assuming folks know that :oops:

Post by **Cableguy** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:48 pm

walshy.walsh wrote:think "fluke" may know his stuff a touch better than you "cableguy"

Think fluke may know how to take my after knowing me for so bloody long too so keep your bloody beak out of it eh ?

As you probably dont know the bleeding of the K series system is completely different to the above , hence i made a joke with Fluke. What is your problem ?

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:49 pm

walshy.walsh wrote:think "fluke" may know his stuff a touch better than you "cableguy"

No need! Get over it!

ti or not ti · Post by **ti or not ti** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:44 pm

Just to add you say caps and then cap Dave!

Which cap are you referring to leave off ?

Rad or Expansion

calibrax · Post by **calibrax** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:58 pm

ti or not ti wrote:Just to add you say caps and then cap Dave!

Which cap are you referring to leave off ?

Rad or Expansion

On a K series, he probably means the oil filler cap... that's where most of the coolant usually ends up at some point...

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:32 pm

ti or not ti wrote:Just to add you say caps and then cap Dave!

Which cap are you referring to leave off ?

Rad or Expansion

When you are as old as me you still remeber when cars never had expansion tank, just used to vent to air, total loss basically.
So "caps" refered to expansion or Radiator, not both.

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:48 pm

fluke wrote:When you are as old as me you still remeber when cars never had expansion tank, just used to vent to air, total loss basically.

Ahh thems were the days! Stood peering under bonnet and boiling hot water ran out the overflow pipe all over your foot, bliss :lol:

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:44 pm

ok help please

Ok i bleed the coolant system...

temp gauge still going up

i gave it a heavy foot today running 8psi temp shoot up i mean right up i shoved it into neutral and slowed down temp dropped immediatly ..

dont think it it is hgf no loss of water or oil and coolant is clean...no smoking and car is running fine

suggestions please. the car is up for sale and i want it fixed before the end of my auciton other wise i will need to put it in my auction and i will lose loads of money

cheers

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:03 pm

i think i am going to try flushing the coolant system and put some system cleaner through it

dreaddan · Post by **dreaddan** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:26 pm

check the thermostat - are the fans coming on? if not or toolate then CTS.

Dan

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:34 pm

fans ok how do i check thermistat

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:54 pm

Take it out drop it in a pan of water on teh stove, thermometer in pan, once water gets to around 88 degrees C stat should then start to open.
If you haven't got as thermometer boil kettle up drop stat in boiling water (obviously do it in something other than kettle otherwise your brew will taste odd :wink:

) should open up, but make sure it opens fully tho, not just a bit

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:05 pm

silly question where is the thermostat locaited.... and how easy is it to remove

I am a begginer mechanic and need mechanics for dummies me thinks

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:15 pm

Its front left of engine, look for the big pipe coming from rad, goes to an ali bit with a 'hump' on it with 2 bolts on teh top, it's in there

Oh and dont force the bolts if they're tight, alloy snaps well before the bolts do :wink:

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:17 pm

cool guess what i am doing tomorrow

got my eye on a couple of nice coupes

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:19 pm

That's the housing top left above the exhaust manifold

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:24 am

thermostat in boiling water looking at me and saying 'what you want me to do' it is just sitting there doing nothing....

i guess that is the cause of my concernt... my coolant sytem is drained no so gonna flush it as well with a flush soloution....

how much are thermostats

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:49 am

Very cheap, probably under Â£10 now, just get a new one

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:41 am

Pretty standard ones in 800s so couple or three quid from car shop

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:19 pm

big problems....
put thermo in ok

drained rad ok
put new water and soloution and coolant in ok
ran car for about 1/2 no fans heaters blowing hot then car started to boil over the coolant tank

help please

Post by **Cableguy** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:24 pm

Is the waterpump circulating whats in there ?

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:28 pm

water pump must be circulaiting i thinks...how do i tell

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:47 pm

update!!!!

ran car again..put cap on expansion tank and the heaters started blowing cooler

hmmmmm\

rover220 · Post by **rover220** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:55 pm

sounds like airlock.

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:53 pm

ok good news all

got pissed off with the car and took a sledge hammer to it!!!!!!!!!!!

BrackenFox · Post by **BrackenFox** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:56 pm

scotrover wrote:ok good news all

got pissed off with the car and took a sledge hammer to it!!!!!!!!!!!

scotrover · Post by **scotrover** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:11 pm

only joking!!!! got annoyed that the car was only temping upto just befor the 1/2 way and the fans werer not kicking so on with the cap and in with me and a blast on the counrty roads to monikie...

temp help all the way 70mph and more (my bad)

got it home thought i still didnt here any fans turned the engine off and there they where cooling the car like they should

air con blowing icy icy cold and then hotty hot hot real hot infact

so all is well the car can now be sold as a runner... was cacking it for a min... must have been an air block!!!!!

the coolant is clean however the replace ment bottle i got for the car came off a car that had a lown hg and looks like utter poo... my old bottle with the crack in it is whiter than white

on the prowl for a 220 tubby to replace here when she is gone